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Flaws of the anti-call center speech by Rep. Raymond Palatino

Today we shall scrutinize the anti-call center speech delivered by Kabataan Partylist rep. Raymond Palatino as it gives exaggerated reports and points depicting our call center industry as a ghastly modern-day "slave ship" for us employees. I shall also point out the flaws specific errors in transcript delivered before Congress August 17, 2009 as it doesn't do us justice being an industry as a whole.

Speech by Mong PalatinoI have clearly and elaborately expressed my resentment over this BPO workers welfare and protection act over my last two posts about it and I see the logic on stressing specific points in future articles. In the meantime, this article shall focus erroneous data provided by the good Activist/Blogger turned Congressman in his speech.

Points of contention:

1st Error(inaccurate data): Congressman Palatino says: "CCAP pegs the turnover rate for the country at 60-80%, the highest in the world.

Reports as late as July 2009, CCAP President Benedict Hernandez has indicated the Philippine call center attrition rate is at a steady 54% and well below their projection of 60%. Some reports also say that it is 57% but not 60-80 and certainly not the highest in the world. The CCAP President, the same person Mr. Palatino quoted as the source of his call center turn-over statistics, also mentions India has far worse attrition rate pegged at 80%. There are multiple online publications proving this statistical fact. Additionally, in one of the reports I've read, Dell Philippines human resource director Donna Grande mentions that mentoring is a key factor in keeping call center employees within the company. This is a far cry from reasons stated by the good Congressman depicting our call center environment as deplorable work spaces as the biggest factor. If anything else, having no mentoring process within a call center environment hardly qualifies as dim working conditions.

2nd Error (Exaggeration): Congressman Palatino, says: "I rise in behalf of fellow young Filipinos denied of their dreams and were forced into the illusory world of call centers".

Do I need to do some research on this? This prelude in his speech clearly describes his contempt against call centers and everyone in it. As Mr. Palatino knows all true well, we live in a democratic country where forced servitude is illegal as any other inhuman acts. No one is forced to work in call centers. Everyone working as a BPO employee, is in it under his/her own volition by reasons specific to each individual. If ever Filipinos are lured into joining call centers, it is because of lack of attractive alternative options that addresses their family's needs and NOT because it is the fault of call centers as an industry.

3rd Error (inaccurate data and outdated research): Congressman Palatino, says: "The average annual salary of call center agents in the Philippines is US$3,964."

While this number may actually have been accurate... in 2007, it clearly is not in the year of our Lord 2009. Maybe Mr. Mong Palatino wasn't able to research and study that one of the biggest concerns of the Philippine BPO as an industry are skyrocketing salaries of call center agents. It is also a big factor contributing to high turn-over rates among call centers. In an ongoing call center salary survey I'm conducting here in this blog, although hardly scientific, majority of call center agent survey participants are favoring a starting salary of more than 18,000 pesos. In this rate, our agents are actually at par with their counterparts in Thailand and Malaysia that are probably the countries which the Philippines is closer in terms of standards of living compared to Singapore.

4th Error (unconfirmed/doubtful reports): Congressman Palatino, says:" According to a multi-country survey conducted by callcentres.net, full-time call center agents stay in a contact center for a brief 22 months, while part-time agents stay for an even shorter 10 months"

I don't have the same statistical reports to see myself but why did he quote a multi-country survey? Does it include the Philippines? What is the real number for the Philippines BPO industry? In order to present a good case, one must show accurate and corresponding data that clearly and substantially reflects our performance. This multi-country data is mixed up with numbers from countries like India where conditions could be less favorable. Generalizing it would not be an accurate representation of how the country's BPOs are doing in terms of keeping employees within their fold and satisfied.

5th Error (poor research): Congressman Palatino, says: "The culprit: poor quality of jobs at the call center. A survey by the Call Center Project based at Cornell University in New York shows that the high attrition  rate is caused by a low job quality in call centers. The study revealed that 67% of agents found in 39% of call center work in low to very low quality of jobs.

Raymond Palatino House Bill no 6921While I am not about to argue with "Cornell University" Call Center project study conclusions, the numbers he quoted speaks for itself... Sixty-seven percent of agents in Thirty-nine percent of call centers clearly doesn't represent a good sampling to make conclusions. More importantly, I wonder how many Philippine Business Process Outsourcing employees were involved in this particular study based in the U.S.? A good research to quote should be entirely based with local call centers in question. I've already quoted above that according to local industry experts, present attrition rates are can be inflated due to "salary wars" between call centers and as Donna Grande may have implied above, poor HR methods.

I can scrutinize his speech further but this is kinda getting lengthy and boring already. I haven't even touched on the actual House Bill no. 6921 yet. So I just end this piece, with a few contemptuous quotes showing his true color in his speech. However, this just my single personal opinion. You judge for yourselves.

1. Mr. Speaker, distinguished colleagues, the job of a call center agent is not all that fancy and ideal. For it is in the very nature of the call center job to be exploitative.- an unfair generalization.

2. How apt, Mr. Speaker, that this industry is marked by hellos and goodbyes. - malicious quip.

3. Unlike our jobs, we have time to read the newspapers or chat with our office mates. The job of a call center agent is one of isolation.  -- This is a true testament that Mr. Palatino does not understand the nature of our jobs. He may have gotten used to reading newspapers and chatting as part of his daily routine at work lol. Seriously, in general we do have time during breaks and downtime to socialize with office mates and no one is preventing us to do so. C'mon!

4. According to the Ecumenical Institute for Labor and Research, only 10-minutes per day period is allowed for personal use such as going to the restroom. - an exaggeration which certainly is inhuman. Based on experience and as a matter of being human as well, call center managers and supervisors provide a work-around to accommodate special requests as such. If it is imperative to complete Staff Time, the agents can complete it after work but NOT prevent them to go to the bathroom altogether and pave way to get them sick. This statement is clearly an unfair generalization and wreaks of bad intentions.

5. Foreign employers warn that if unions in the call centers will allowed, they will leave the Philippines. - There's a typo here in the actual transcript but seriously, I challenge Mr. Raymond Palatino to produce concrete evidence in written memo or actual witnesses to such directives by call center clients or call center companies. If there are true violators who forbid such democratic rights, I will be more than happy to see them get shut down by the government. However, the fact is, these claims are unsubstantiated myths.

These 10 points leaves me no choice but to cut this story short and leave the rest of my commentaries for future articles. This anti-call center speech and House Bill no. 6921, in my opinion can clearly be represented if the people behind them actually consulted local industry experts and made a balanced research. I think this cause will be better represented by people who have actual stake in it and who can act PROACTIVELY not reactively.
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14 comments here!:

Anonymous said...

What do you expect from somebody on the left-wing???

He's used to criticizing... the question is can he take criticisms as well?

Call Center Blogger said...

Well he has to take hits as he can give them, right? We live in a democratic country where free speech is protected offline and online.

Besides, I don't think I went overboard here. I simply stated facts, made brief research and compared them to what I can read through the speech transcript. The rest is up to him.

1delacruise said...

I have written an article about your cause ma'am...

http://www.techgoss.com/Story/278S12-Philippines--Call-Center-blogger-Vs-Congressman.aspx

Thanks for the input.

Black Hat said...

Helo po. Paalala lang ma'am kongresista at aktibista po ang kinakalaban nyo. Mag-ingat na lang sa resbak.

Mas mabuti pang palitan nyo na ang PW nyo sa lahat ng websites nyo at baka ma-hack kayo. a friendly reminder from your neighborhood blue-hater lol

Call Center Blogger said...

@Black Hat
That's fine. I've got a back-up online and offline plus I have a mirror site. :)

They can shut me down but they can't shut me up!

Anonymous said...

Bravo!
I applaud you for standing up for an industry that albeit is not perfect, it is trying to afford qualified Pilipinos with worthwhile gainful employment. Yes there are problems within the industry, as there are in most businesses, but the BPO's have done more positive good for Pinas and its economy than any other industry, bar none!

As for the good Congressman's biased opinion and lack of factual presentation, one can only ask....why would anyone in public office who is supposedly so Pro-Pinas, wish to demoralize and destroy an entity that has helped families across Pinas elevate their standard of living.

thank you for correcting the record, God bless at ingat ka!

z764536 said...

Nice to hear from you again :)

The speech has me wondering on what is the main purpose of the politico behind it...

Sigh...

Anonymous said...

Kudos to your dissection of Mr.Palatino's speech! We in the call center industry know full and well not to open our mouths if we havent properly checked our resources and have concrete data to back up what we will say. Someone should invite the congressman to experience a day in the life of a call center employee so that he can see for himself what we live and experience to provide for ourselves, our families, and ultimately our country. By doing so he will learn how we do business, and maybe along the way also understand the meaning of a call center catch phrase - empathy.

Call Center Blogger said...

@z764536

Thanks for commenting. And yes I'm back and I hope we get to interact more soon.

Yes nakakatawa nga itong situation nya eh... I've come across his Congressional profile sa PH Congress website and IMHO parang this is just part of a palabas or something. It looks like mas marami nga palang naka-pending sya na house bills at karamihan eh parang these past few months lang nai-file. Parang nagka-cramming kung baga. Mas marami pang pending house bills kaysa sa actual na laws passed, authored or co-authored.

Does this have anything to do with the elections next year? IDK and IDC... As long as hindi barubal ang presentation of call centers and agents at mas mahalaga is dapat may substance ang law proposal nya hindi yung kopya lang.. :(

Here's his Congress profile:
Kabataan Partylist Congressman Raymond Palatino

Call Center Blogger said...

Hi anonymous,

Yes that's a great idea! Unfortunately his moves are reactive and not proactive. As we can see in one of the comments made somewhere here from their side, they say that they have been "receiving" many complaints from call center agents about labor code violations. My big question is does his anti-call speech and subsequent bill address any of our concerns? Would copying and paraphrasing provisions of the labor code be enough to ensure companies will not be violating again.

The correct proactive actions that should have been in this bill should be provisions how to improve like some I've suggested in this previous post

And yes I do agree with you about us checking our facts first before making any statements. It just goes to show that in this particular case, we are WAY ahead of them in terms of maturity.

Anonymous said...

RGC09

I must say that for the past 5 years working in a BPO/Contact center, the most problems that they have are protection, retention, moral obligations to their employees. A lot of these BPO/Contact Centers never really care about their employees, well say from my past 6 BPO/Contact center exp. 50% falls to that range. Poor employees are not given proper care, in terms of health issues, employee relation issues and more. I say that both of you are right in some ways. Oh, Mr/Ms. Call centar blogger, if I mat ask, what is your position in that BPO/Contact Center? I assume you are not just a mere agent, the reason for this question is very clear. You yourself do not see and experience what we are going through everyday. Yes you may have been an agent once the, but that was before, when everything was still silver and gold to be a call center agent. Not today when things are tough and you ca't even get up to pee becasue it is queuing or TL'sm, supervisors or OM's wont allow you because they hated your guts. Very political isn't it, too bad your infront of your expensive laptop trying to justify it for your own good reasons. Think again, a lot of Filipinos are just quiet and kept thei silence because they need to feed their family. I dare you to really go and ask around, experience the stress and neglect that we get from HR, accounting, rude security personels, lack of sleep area or limited space, "mga walang pakialam na" TL's , supervisors and OM's. Kelangan nga talaga ng politiko dito kc ganun din naman sa loob ng BPO/Contact Centers eh, ma"politiko" din. Aminin mo man o hindi, these things do happen. Nagbubulag bulagan at nagbibingihan lang kayo kc mataas na ang positions niyo. And lastly, i disagree na mataas ang offers or sweldo sa ganito to think na mas mabigat at mas mahirap ang dinadanas ng mga counterparts dito compared sa US na $14 per hour sila kahit na sabihin mo pang iba ang cost of living dun, that is not the case. Mas stressed ang mag agents dito. Ilahat mo na nga factors, we work night shift, get more calls, get QA'd, sobrang strict sa rules na wala naman sa US. gets IR'd agad kahit na valid ang reason, napaka inhumane ng treatment sa mga me sakit,lagnat, buntis at me kapansanan. And in additon to this, ang "VTO" - voluntary time out, ba eh nasa labor code? pati ang pre and post shift over time na madals eh ty pa? madame pa...next time na lang po ulit...

Call Center Blogger said...

@RGC09

First of all your employment track record of 6 BPO companies in 5 years tells us that you've been call center hopping and you probably ain't the right employee fit for the job. You've been trying to find the perfect company while in fact there is none. Maybe you're one of those who Mr. Palatino received reports of labor violations?

Yes I am of high post in a call center but that doesn't mean I am naive to situations of people around me. This is your problem you generalize and stereotype me again when you don't even know me personally. If anything else, call centers offer more than just high salary and good perks, things have improved a lot since when I started. Work demands consequently also increase because of this but our work demands are NO DIFFERENT from work demands of our counterparts in other countries.

Your managers won't allow you to pee because they hate your guts? hmmm... Nice reason. What did you do about it?

Like I said your experience is that of a call center hopper who is probably jaded of the experiences he's had already. While as for myself, if I didn't have an inkling of care for my employees, I wouldn't be blogging this, I wouldn't be challenging the sense of Mr. Palatino's bill and I wouldn't give a f*ck about what's happening on my floor. How sure are you that I'm not all these???? Again, you and the good Congressman share the same tone, you generalize and stereotype people that's why you can't make a good judgement. You are already prejudiced with the hand that feeds you.

The rest of your comments are just riddled with immaturity so I would just leave it and I won't justify it. If you have trouble with queueing calls, IR's, stress and shit... You definitely are better off not working in a call center because we eat call, deal with IR's and stress being a monkey on our backs constantly. Don't put yourelf in anymore stress in call center hopping to find the perfect company because it only exists in heaven.:) And you can't apply there until you're dead.

Voluntary Time Out? - nakakatawa naman nga itong parte na ito eh... Ayoko nga sana banggitin kasi baka sobrang stupid ang provision na ito.

Huwag ka na umasa na sa susunod ulit ha... Alam ko tao ka ng magaling Mong Kongresista. :)

enad said...

there are things that he forgot to place into consideration when he wrote that speech. i had a good work environment and i was aware what kind of daily life i would like once i started working. stressful but fun

Anonymous said...

nice post ... was reading thru the thread, guess some people don't see how BPO's have actually help our country in terms of providing jobs and sustaining the country's economy. Like what you said there is no such thing as a perfect company nor a perfect job there would always be flaws and you would always find things to complain about ... VTO tsk tsk tsk... not force at all your choice your paycheck hehehe... peace

agent on break lol

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